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05/29/25 Conversationality: Tackling passion and purpose with a "beginner's mindset"

Sometimes you need a mirror...
Eunice Brownlee

If you feel like you missed it when the universe was handing out “Passion & Purpose;” if you feel like you knew what yours was once, but something has shifted; if you feel like you’re multi-passionate and have no idea how to corral your values and passion and purpose into something you can integrate into your work, then this #Conversationality is for you.

Eunice Brownlee is a speaker coach and a storytelling coach, and this entire aspect of her career stemmed out of finding her own voice and telling her own story. And then discovering that she could be a mirror for people to help them understand their own brilliance and unique offering.

Of course, you can try to be your own mirror…ask yourself what you would say to yourself if you were your own best friend, but I’m guessing most of us need a bit of a nudge in that direction from a trusted objective external source.

The conversation with Eunice spans across topics, including the need for curiosity about ourselves, unexpected references to the Diddy trial, and a great definition of the difference between sharing your vulnerability and “trauma dumping.” Check it out and let us know if it helped you tease out more about your own passion and purpose than you knew you had in you!

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Find Eunice at her website, EuniceBrownlee.com.

Key points:

Referenced in the episode:

Deep Dive with Claire Wasserman on connecting the dots from your experiences to find your passion:

Conversationality with Jory and Elisa on distinguishing passion from purpose:

Timeline:

2:18: Eunice’s background and context

5:52: Pushing back on “I don’t have anything special to say” self-doubt

8:12: The Diddy case and how even if an exact story hasn’t happened to you, it can help you draw parallels to other issues in your life

10:21: The magic of being someone’s mirror and reflecting how other people see them

13:18: Don’t leave out the catalyst for your story

14:25: Vulnerability vs. “trauma dumping”

17:00: getting out of your head and intro your body to find your passion

18:52: Some of the tools (physical and digital) Eunice uses in her work

22:09: Listening to vs. interrogating your “gut”

24:10: Biases are fluid

25:41: The common thread in three conversations about passion and purpose: Therapy and addressing childhood experiences

27:29: Curiosity is key to the beginner’s mindset

28:14: Where to find Eunice

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Meanwhile, get ready for June: Our theme is Leisure, Play, Fun, and Joy!! It may sometimes feel like those things get pushed to the bottom of your list, but the science (and our own lived experience, when we let ourselves go there) indicate that they are foundational. Do you have a story about leisure, play, fun, and joy in your life? Let us know, and we’ll may feature your story!

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