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06/26/25 Conversationality: Elizabeth Bohannon goes beyond Plan B

How to think about the future when the present is uncertain
Elizabeth Bohannon, author of the Walk With Me newsletter

Wow.

took us to some deep places in today’s #Conversationality. Inviting fear to dinner. Hope vs. faith. What it’s like to be present for the dying. How to look ahead when the way forward is murky at best. Spoiler alert: I (Elisa) cried, unexpectedly.

I wonder, what’s one thing you want to think about in a different way after listening to Elizabeth’s hard-won wisdom?

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More about Elizabeth

Elizabeth’s newsletter, Walk With Me, is a place to share stories of living through hard things, like cancer or chronic illness. It can be isolating, so Elizabeth is building a place to cry, laugh and celebrate as we navigate the hard stuff, together.

Key points in the video

1:00: Jory explains why we were eager to have Elizabeth join us to talk about contingency planning, and looking at Plan B and beyond.

6:54: Elizabeth clarified her crisis of the moment (a medical one) but points out her life contained crises long before the existential ones.

9:00: Elizabeth realized she has to emerge from feeling mostly only fear and find a way forward.

11:00: Elizabeth compares the “battering ram of hope” to, instead, faith.

13:00: Elizabeth talks about “inviting fear to dinner.”

15:00: how do you “plan” when the future is so uncertain, and you don’t *know* it will all work out?

19:00: Elizabeth talks about the narrative thread in her journey from nurse to lawyer to coach. And particularly about her work as a nurse in San Francisco during the AIDS crisis.

22:50: I pop in to make a burning comment and lose it, basically.

25:00: Jory honors a colleague she and I both knew from our media days, Andrew Nachison, as he enters hospice and shared some very raw and beautiful words with his community.

27:00: Elizabeth shares the reason she believes she is here, and why she writes about it.

29:00 Jory and Elizabeth discuss the book Composing a Life by Mary Catherine Bateson

Coming this summer

Our July theme is all about the joys to be found in the analog world. And our August theme is about leisure, play, fun, and joy. What are you doing this summer that you’re really looking forward to?

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