In this edition of Conversationality Jory Des Jardins and Elisa Camahort Page tackle two very different topics:
The unpaid labor that’s worth $60,000/year. At least according to The Harris Poll. Here’s the post by
which spurred Jory to bring it up:Jory has to think harder about her “natural” tendencies versus those that seem natural but are borne of a lifetime of expectations.
Elisa name-checks her former boss, Tiffany Dufu, and her book Drop the Ball, which recommends letting go of your way as the only right way in order to delegate, delegate, delegate. (We all know this is easier said than done, whether in the home or the workplace.)
2. Then, we move on to the art of persuasion. It was a wild week in politics here in the USA, and Jory wanted to shout out Elisa’s recent personal newsletters in which she gave advice on how to create a manageable game plan for yourself, stick to it, and put it into action, focused on persuasion, not conversion.At the end of the day, much of the advice isn’t so different than the advice Elisa dishes out in her LinkedIn Learning course about Storytelling That Sticks…whether you’re interviewing for a job, pitching your company, talking to the media, or talking to a voter.
For a bit of humor, here’s the TikTok video Jory mentioned that gives us a taste of how Australia viewed the RNC Convention that took place just one week ago (but doesn’t it feel like a month?):
Finally, we mentioned near the end of the conversation that we’re going to dive into potential workplace policies that may help workers have a more optionality-driven lifestyle and whether this election presents different policy approaches. At the end of the day, almost every policy area affects workers, and workers are the workforce. Healthcare, taxation, paid leave, childcare, education, housing, and even abortion… all have relevance to business, so it’s worth understanding what might be coming. What policies do you want to know more about?
07/25/24 Conversationality: A wild week in America.